Australian Newsstand Edition

AUS Price Variants (Australian Newsstand Editions)

By Benjamin Nobel, May 17, 2017

Australian newsstand editions.

CGC denotes these Australian newsstand comics as “Australian Edition” on census and on their labels. [ May 2019 UPDATE: this article was written in 2017 but readers should be aware that CGC announced that as of May 6, 2019, they will label as “Australian Price Variant” going forward 🙂]

Welcome back! This is “Part II” of my look at Marvel’s 1990’s-era AUS price variants (Australian newsstand editions), a fascinating “class” of first-print, US-published cover price variants targeted to the Australian market — specifically to Australian newsstands. Before reading on, make sure you have read Part I, which introduced you to this “class” of comics using the mega-key that falls within the variant publication window: Part I: New Mutants #98 — $1.50 Cover Price Variant.

One of the interesting observations we explored in Part I, is how these comics are identical to the rest of the print run on the inside (including the all-important indicia page), but carry a different cover price — as well as a later cover month — on the outside. Because the batch of newsstand comics produced for the Australian market would likely have spent so much time traveling in a container (probably on a slow boat), the cover month for the 1990-1994-era AUS price variants was set three months later than their North American newsstand counter-parts — so for New Mutants #98, we saw that instead of February on the cover, the variants show May. And although the indicia of the variant copies still reads February, CGC catalogs the variants by the May cover month, resulting in a second census entry under a different issue date:

CGC opted to catalog the variant under 5/91 (what appears on the cover) for the issue date, rather than 2/91 as appears in the indicia page.

CGC opted to catalog the variant under 5/91 (what appears on the cover) for the issue date, rather than 2/91 as appears in the indicia page.

And then at the time of my Part I post, we saw how CGC did not indicate anywhere on the label of these variants, that the indicia month within was actually February. I mentioned how I was going to suggest an improvement to CGC when submitting my own copy, and I am pleased to be able to report that CGC has edited their Key Comments notes across New Mutants #98 and other AUS price variant examples as well, in order to include the indicia month information on the label. Public thanks to CGC for this great improvement — because it helps collectors who may be unfamiliar with this “class” of comics to grasp that they were indeed manufactured right along with the rest of the print run. Once encapsulated, that indicia information is then forever out of view and buried within the slab, so including it on the label is an important improvement.

Here is how the CGC census lookup for variant copies of New Mutants #98 looks today, which you can compare against the screenshot from my Part I post; notice how the Key Comments note now ends with “Indicia reads 2/91” and my copy has brought the total on record up to 6 from the previous 5:

New Mutants #98 variant CGC census entry.

New Mutants #98 variant CGC census entry now states “Indicia reads 2/91” within the Key Comments note.

Other Keys Beyond New Mutants #98

A 1990 population comparison for the USA, Canada, and Australia, shows Australia at 5.8%.

A 1990 population comparison for the USA, Canada, and Australia, shows Australia at 5.8%.

Although New Mutants #98 is the mega-key within the Type 1A AUS price variant window, many other interesting comics with AUS variants are confirmed to exist as well, including some other really important keys I’ll present below.

Confirming the existence of AUS price variants case-by-case from the 10/90 to 1/94 window (and the 2/96 to 11/96 window) is incredibly difficult: there are some which I expect should exist, such as Iron Man #282, but I’ve had my eyes peeled for going on six months and have yet to spot a single copy [10/26/2017 Update: Thank you to Paul Nicholls who confirmed the existence of the Iron Man #282 variant and supplied a photo!  Paul also mentioned Silver Surfer v3 #44 (1st appearance of the Infinity Gauntlet) as another critically important key to list as falling into this Type 1A Cover Price Variant window].

Estimated 1990 split for Marvel: 15% newsstand to 85% direct edition.

Estimated 1990 split for Marvel: 15% newsstand to 85% direct edition.

But it makes sense that these AUS cover price copies should be next-to-impossible to find as a “class” of variants, because Australia is such a small market by population, in contrast to North America. And that small population percentage is then applied only to the newsstand slice of Marvel’s comic books… where we see a 1990 newsstand rarity estimate of 15% and a BPA audit revealing 14% newsstand sales by the beginning of 1999.

So dividing up the newsstand pie slice by market size to reveal just the Australian newsstand copies within that already-small newsstand slice, we’d get to a minuscule percentage of total copies sold of a given issue being our AUS price variants — in the Part I post, I penciled out a range of 0.87% to 2.61%, before the high destruction rate that newsstand comics are notorious for.  That math makes for a huge number of “regular” copies you’d have to scroll through before you spot 1 AUS variant copy… and in so many cases, you can scroll completely through every single copy on eBay and find zero AUS variants.  Despite this extreme rarity level, through my own hunting and with the help of readers (thanks for all your help!!) I was able to confirm the existence of the following interesting keys and picture them here:

Amazing Spider-Man #344 (1st Cletus Kasady appearance)

Amazing Spider-Man #344, $1.50 AUS variant

Amazing Spider-Man #344, $1.50 AUS variant.  Cletus Kasady eventually becomes Carnage.

Amazing Spider-Man #360 (1st Carnage in cameo)

Amazing Spider-Man #360, $1.80 AUS variant

Amazing Spider-Man #360, $1.80 AUS variant

Amazing Spider-Man #361 (1st full Carnage appearance)

Amazing Spider-Man #362-363 (Carnage storyline)

Amazing Spider-Man #365 (1st appearance of Spider-Man 2099)

Amazing Spider-Man #365, $5.95 AUS variant

Amazing Spider-Man #365, $5.95 AUS variant; very high cover price; hologram cover.

Uncanny X-Men #282 (1st Bishop appearance)

Uncanny X-Men #282, $1.50 AUS variant

New Mutants #99 (1st appearance of Feral; X-Men #138 cover swipe)

New Mutants #99, $1.50 AUS variant

New Mutants #100 (1st appearance of X-Force)

New Mutants #100, $2.00 AUS Variant

New Mutants #100, $2.00 AUS Variant

Iron Man #281 (1st cameo appearance of War Machine)

Iron Man #281, $1.80 AUS variant

Iron Man #281, $1.80 AUS variant, 1st War Machine in cameo

Iron Man #282 (1st full appearance of War Machine)

Iron Man #282, $1.80 AUS Variant

Iron Man #282, $1.80 AUS Variant

X-Force #11 (1st appearance of “real” Domino)

X-Force #15 (Deadpool vs. Cable)

And here are a few other interesting comics, just to give you some more ideas…

I always find it interesting to compare and contrast different kinds of variant comics, when considering their relative value — and during the 90’s while this AUS price variant window was open on newsstands, there were meanwhile some well known X-Men variants that were sold in conjunction with an X-Men board game. Many buyers of these board games got a variant copy of X-Men #11 included, with a silver background on the cover; and there were other variant issues distributed with the board game as well: X-Men #’s 297, 303, and 307.

pressman-board-game

The X-Men #11 variants are not especially difficult to find out there as judged by eBay availability — for example at this particular moment in time, if I wanted to buy a nice NM-range copy of the silver/Pressman-board-game variant of X-Men #11, I could go onto eBay and I’d have eleven copies to choose from including three CGC graded copies above NM in grade:

x-men-11-pressmen-comps

Those are some high price tags!  Which goes to show how hungry collectors are to own variants… the variants they know about.  In the sold section of eBay I found two recent Pressman X-Men #11 listings, both of which described the offered copies as NM- and one of which had availability of two copies:

pressman-sales

The Pressman variants are indeed interesting for context here… because these X-Men issues with Pressman variants also fall within our AUS price variant window by publication date. So we have a nice contrast looking at market values for these Pressman variants that collectors are already aware of and out there looking for — i.e. we can think about the following question: if NM- Pressman variant copies of X-Men #11 are going for $30-40, what should AUS price variant copies of the issue go for?

Looking today on the CGC census, there are 53 Pressman copies of X-Men #11 on record, but zero AUS variant copies.  Looking today on eBay, I find only one AUS price variant copy of the issue in the “sold” section (and only one currently-active listing); the sold copy was described as VF+, and take a look at the price the seller decided to ask for their copy on a buy-it-now — you can really see the relative value here (even with overseas shipping cost we’re talking about a fraction of the cost of a Pressman variant):

x-men-11-aus-variant-sale

And VF+ is actually a very strong grade in the context of these variants as newsstand exclusives (and with the associated typical poor handling and high destruction rate that newsstand comics are notorious for). The more typical condition you’ll find out there among AUS variants is more like this:

x-men-11-aus-vs-pressman

Finding stickers affixed to the front covers of AUS price variants is a very common occurrence and is reflective of how the comics were treated — as something to read, with no thought given to preservation of collectible condition.   Another common occurrence you’ll see out there is a newsstand marking in the upper left corner of the front cover in pen (the number portion of these markings appears to have to do with the month) — here are a few examples below with such markings (when submitted to CGC, the following showed up as Grader Notes: “small writing top left of front cover“):

aus-newsstand-markings

I haven’t been able to confirm sightings of AUS variants for all of the other X-Men issues that also have Pressman variants, but based on the AUS variant publication window they likely do all indeed exist for each of the issues that have Pressman variants; here below is confirmation of the existence of an AUS price variant for one of the others, X-Men #307:

x-men-307-aus-variant

Similar to Pressman variants as a simultaneously-existing variant “type” that we can use for value comparison, another “type” of 1990’s variant has to do with the common use of holograms on comic book covers during the 90’s: sometimes, these holograms took on different shades of color when they were manufactured. Collectors, being ever eager to seek out rare variant versions of a given comic, have identified blue holograms as more desirable and rare. For example, consider X-Force #25:

x-force-25-hologram

As you can see above, these “rare blue” hologram copies are asking quite a bit (and that first listing also touts an orange tinted version). And toggling over to the “sold” listings, we can see that such copies described as having blue holograms are indeed finding buyers willing to pay a considerable premium over what the “regular” copies sell for:

blue-hologram-sales

And as you already guessed, these blue holograms aren’t the only variant version out there of the issue… because there indeed exists an AUS price variant for this hologram issue as well (and check out the high cover price Australians were asked to pay to get their hands on one of these cool hologram covers, at a whopping $5.60):

x-force-25-aus-5.60-variant

And X-Force #25 isn’t the only hologram example; one of those sold eBay listings we saw earlier mentioned “Like Wolverine 75” in the title, and indeed, that’s another one where collectors are paying a premium for blue hologram copies.  And it is also an example where an AUS price variant exists (and look what a high cover price Australians were asked to pay for this one!):

wolverine-75-aus-hologram-v

And AUS price variants exist for other hologram issues as well, including Amazing Spider-Man #365 which we saw earlier (first appearance of Spider-Man 2099 — and yes, the 2099 titles also have AUS price variants), and Spectacular Spider-Man #189 (and once again, an abnormally high cover price associated with the hologram cover; and once again a sticker affixed to the cover of this particular example):

spectacular-spider-man-189-

Hologram covers are arguably a big piece of “1990s comic book memorabilia” and it is interesting to consider the little-known AUS cover price variant hologram copies in contrast to the blue hologram versions that collectors are already out there looking for today and paying premiums for as rare variants — because between the tiny percentage of total copies that the Australian newsstand market represented, the notorious high newsstand destruction rate, and the abnormally high per-issue cover price these hologram issues were consistently given (potentially deterring a lot of would-be buyers from opening their wallets), finding these surviving AUS cover price variant hologram covers in high grade is beyond challenging… and there are several other hologram issues I haven’t included here simply because after nearly six months of looking, I’ve yet to see a single copy come up for sale (not even a beaten-up reader copy which would at least confirm their existence).

A similar category to holograms (in the sense of sometimes creating variant versions known to collectors today) was “foil” covers with known manufacturing errors; one example being Silver Surfer #50:

silver-surfer-50-foil-error

Here’s a recent sale of a Silver Surfer #50 error copy in the “sold” section of eBay:

silver-surfer-50-error-sale

In the context of this “known variant” that collectors are already out there looking for, it is interesting to consider the little-known AUS price variant of the same issue:

Silver Surfer #50, $1.50 AUS cover price.

Between Pressman variants, blue hologram copies, and foil errors, these other 1990s variants help calibrate a sense of what kind of potential the AUS price variants have as a “class” of variant comics if collectors broadly start to become aware of their existence (and their extreme rarity) and begin actively looking for them.  Today, the awareness of their existence has got to be extremely low out there…  I count myself among those who until recently had no idea whatsoever that AUS price variant newsstand comics even existed.

Even with the current low level of awareness of this “class” of variants, a recent sale of the “mega-key” example (New Mutants #98) shows their market value potential…  Since the time of my “Part I” post, we have seen one New Mutants #98 copy described as the AUS price variant hit the “sold” section of eBay, with an impressive price result.  The one sale was this one screen-captured below, described as VG/FN, and I can tell from the sold listings section sorted by order of highest to lowest sale price, that this variant copy fetched a higher sale price than the three books pictured below it in the following screenshot, which are: (runner-up-#1) a CBCS 9.0 copy signed by Rob Liefeld; (runner-up-#2) a CBCS 9.4 Direct Edition copy; (runner-up-#3) a CGC 9.4 Direct Edition copy.

new-mutants-98-aus-value

A dramatic price difference for sure, when a raw VG/FN AUS price variant copy of New Mutants #98 beats out these slabbed Near-Mint-range direct edition comps… Which prompts one to wonder: what would a Near Mint variant have sold for?  What would the one single CGC 9.4 variant copy presently in existence today have sold for (as of today, 9.4 is the top grade)?

And what would a near mint AUS variant copy of New Mutants #98 sell for in the future if more collectors begin to realize they actually exist and then come to comprehend their rarity as newsstand exclusives targeted to the relatively-tiny-by-population Australian market?  I can’t imagine knowledge of these variants is currently very widespread… the tiny numbers and the principle of “out of sight, out of mind” has kept them nearly-invisible (the current grand-total six CGC graded copies of the New Mutants #98 AUS variant stands in stark contrast against the 12,611 CGC graded “regular” copies presently in existence… in fact, 765 “regular” copies of New Mutants #98 have been graded since year-end 2016 alone).

And if that’s true that awareness of these AUS price variants is indeed on the low side today, then that means we presently have a nice window of opportunity to hunt for AUS price variants while they are still broadly under the radar and can sometimes be found out there for “regular price” listed on eBay.

Hopefully the example comics I’ve talked about today give you some other good ideas for AUS price variant comics to collect beyond the mega-key presented in Part I.  And although I’ve only focused on the first “window” (1990-1994) in this post, there are also confirmed 1996 AUS price variants out there too. Below is a list a reader shared with me, of Amazing Spider-Man Australian newsstand comics they had personally collected and verified to date:

Confirmed Amazing Spider-Man Australian Newsstand Editions
Issue No. Indicia Date Cover Price (AUS) Cover Date
341 Nov-90 $1.50 Feb
342 Dec-90 $1.50 Mar
343 Jan-91 $1.50 Apr
344 Feb-91 $1.50 May
345 Mar-91 $1.50 Jun
346 Apr-91 $1.50 Jul
347 May-91 $1.50 Aug
348 Jun-91 $1.50 Sep
349 Jul-91 $1.50 Oct
350 Aug-91 $1.50 Nov
351 Sep-91 $1.50 Dec
352 Oct-91 $1.50 Jan
353 Nov-91 $1.50 Early Feb
354 Nov-91 $1.50 Late Feb
355 Dec-91 $1.50 Early Mar
356 Dec-91 $1.50 Late Mar
357 Jan-92 $1.50 Early Apr
358 Jan-92 $1.50 Late Apr
359 Feb-92 $1.80 May
360 Mar-92 $1.80 Jun
361 Apr-92 $1.80 Jul
362 May-92 $1.80 Aug
363 Jun-92 $1.80 Sep
364 Jul-92 $1.80 Oct
365 Aug-92 $5.95 Nov
366 Sep-92 $1.80 Dec
367 Oct-92 $1.80 Jan
368 Nov-92 $1.80 Early Feb
369 Nov-92 $1.80 Late Feb
370 Dec-92 $1.80 Early Mar
371 Dec-92 $1.80 Late Mar
372 Jan-93 $1.80 Early Apr
373 Jan-93 $1.80 Late Apr
374 Feb-93 $1.80 May
375 Mar-93 $5.95 Jun
376 Apr-93 $1.95 Jul
377 May-93 $1.95 Aug
378 Jun-93 $1.95 Sep
379 Jul-93 $1.95 Oct
380 Aug-93 $1.95 Nov
381 Sep-93 $1.95 Dec
382 Oct-93 $1.95 Jan
383 Nov-93 $1.95 Feb
384 Dec-93 $1.95 Mar
408 Feb-96 $2.50 Feb
410 Apr-96 $2.50 Apr
411 May-96 $2.50 May
412 Jun-96 $2.50 Jun
413 Jul-96 $2.50 Jul
414 Aug-96 $2.50 Aug
415 Sep-96 $2.50 Sep
416 Oct-96 $2.50 Oct
417 Nov-96 $2.00 Nov

[Thank-you to the reader who contacted me and shared the above!]  These are their confirmed hits, and it is possible others exist outside of this list, for example Amazing Spider-Man #340 seems like it should fit into the window.  Here’s a picture of one of the AUS price variant ASM examples from 1996 ($2.00 AUS price in UPC code box):

amazing-spider-man-417-aus

And I’ll end this post with a few more example AUS variants just to give you a further sampling of what’s out there.  Happy Collecting! 🙂

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46 thoughts on “AUS Price Variants (Australian Newsstand Editions)

  1. Paul Nicholls says:

    Great acticle
    I have been collecting these since 1990 and today I picked up a possible 9.8 for $500 of NM 98 on Gumtree in Aus
    I’m gonna press it and.submit it to CGC next year
    My brother has a copy of Ironman 282 1st war machine
    I can send you a photo if you like
    I can send you a photo of my NM98 too it’s near mint plus

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    • Hi Paul, photos would be great! 🙂 I’d sent you an email after receiving your initial comment, did that email message make it through to you? Best way to send me photos would be to reply to that email.

      – Ben

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      • Hi Paul, thanks for sharing those photos, I really appreciate it! 🙂 I’ve had Iron Man #282 on my watch list this entire time and your photo marks the very first one I’ve ever seen.

        I want to mention something, since you said you’ll be submitting your New Mutants #98 to CGC next year… A reader recently brought to my attention that they were looking up New Mutants #98 on the CGC census and noticed that CGC appears to have made another change: whereas before they had classified the AUS variant for New Mutants #98 under 5/91, and then after my suggestion they placed a key comments note about the 2/91 indicia into that census entry, now they appear to be classifying new submissions of the variant as a 2/91 entry, i.e. right below the “regular” New Mutants #98 copies. (See screenshot below taken just now). [10/29 follow-up: someone let me know that they checked with CGC and the 2/91 entry that presently appears on the census for the New Mutants #98 variant is actually just a one-off mistake and they plan to correct the census at its next release, at which time it will be removed and only the 5/91 entry will remain.]

        I haven’t personally verified that this new census entry isn’t a one-off because I’ve only yet acquired my one AUS variant copy (I’d have bought 10 had I actually found more mis-listed copies but to date I’ve only landed the one). But if I’m fortunate to successfully land another in time, I will submit it to CGC with 2/91 as the date to confirm their new treatment; and when you submit yours, I’d suggest you do the same and put down 2/91 for the month.

        Thanks again Paul! 🙂

        Best,
        – Ben

        New Mutants #98 Updated Census Organization

        high-grade-nm-98

        New Mutants #100, $2.00 AUS Variant

        Iron Man #282, $1.80 AUS Variant

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  2. As a follow-up, someone let me know that they checked with CGC and the 2/91 entry that presently appears on the census for the New Mutants #98 variant is actually just a one-off mistake and they plan to correct the census at its next release, at which time it will be removed and only the 5/91 entry will remain.

    Also, a reader shared with me today that they landed the below as an example 10/90 issue:

    fantastic-four-345-aus

    – Ben

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  3. Paul Nicholls says:

    Ben i have been buying some more Aus Variant Keys
    This week I got Gambit 1 miniseries and Venom 1 Lethal Protector that I have never seen before.

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    • Hi Paul, great new finds! I’m especially excited for you on the Venom Lethal Protector #1, because it is another case where collectors are already keenly aware of a highly-valued variant that can be looked to for contrast as a “comp” of sorts: the copies which were manufactured without the foil, in error; a CGC census lookup shows 180 copies currently denoted “Black Cover/Printing Error”… Meanwhile I have to imagine very few owners of that variant are even aware of the existence of the $4.50 AUS variant!

      – Ben 🙂

      venom-1-aus

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  4. Mr. cover price variant says:

    Hi Ben,

    I did some research with the Marvel Australian Type 1A price variants and came to an interesting conclusion in one area.

    I found that there are TWO not ONE beginning indicia dates found for Marvel Australian price variant books for different Marvel titles and the dates are 10/90 and 11/90. The two different indicia dates explains why there is no Australian cover price variant Amazing Spider-Man #340 10/90 indicia dated issue known to exist. I used the Marvel New Mutants title and Fantastic Four titles to prove that two starting dates exist. New Mutants Australian cover price variant books began with issue #95 and the book has a 11/90 dated indicia. The Fantastic Four Australian cover price variant books began with issue #345 and the book has a 10/90 dated indicia. I concluded that Amazing Spider-Man and Fantastic Four Australian cover price variants actually began with different indicia dates and that some Marvel Australian cover price variant titles ceased with a 12/93 dated indicia and some titles ceased with a 1/94 dated indicia. The second wave of Marvel Australian cover price variants published 2/96-11/96 all have the same beginning indicia date which is 2/96.

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      Great info mate thanks
      Yeah I have never seen ASM 340 Aus before but have seen a asm 341
      Are you from Australia??
      I have a huge collection of these Australian Price Variants and am up to 4 copies of ASZm 361 and 3 copies of New Mutants 100
      Trying to confirm the existence of some of these Variants to very hard
      Do you know if there is a Wolverine 80 Aus and Incredile Hulk 377 Aus
      Thanks Paul
      P.S feel free to Email me about any questions on these comics because I love talking about them and they Fasinate me

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  5. Mr. cover price variant says:

    Hi Paul,
    I live here in the USA. In regards to your question of do Wolverine and Incredible Hulk 377 exist as AUS cover price variants I would have to say that there is a very good chance that they do as well as Marvels Infinity Gauntlet #1. I truly believe ALL the Marvel 10/90-1/94 AUS cover price variants were published, but they are extremely scarce and seldom seen or found out there, even on Australian eBay!. Also one might note that an Amazing Spider-Man 361 CGC 9.8!!! Australian cover price variant sold on eBay about 5 years ago. Can one imagine the value of that 9.8 copy today being that a CGC 9.4 copy went for $1,200.00 on eBay in 2017. Wow! it is truly amazing that you say you have a raw NM raw grade copy of New Mutants #98 AUS that you feel will grade a 9.4 or higher by CGC and I look forward to seeing what it grades out at.

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      I live in Australia and have been collecting these since I was a kid and now I’m 42
      I can tell you I’m 99% sure there is NO infinity Gauntlet 1-6 Aus but there is a Infinity War 1-6 Aus and Infinity Crusade 1-6 Aus
      Silver Surfer didn’t start till about issue 40 in Aus Variants
      New mutants started at issue 94
      I’m pretty sure there was no Darkhawk Quasar
      The Venom Lethal Protector 1-6 are Very Rare and seriously under the Radar
      I have only seen 1 copy on eBay in years and it cost me $20
      But getting these Variants in Near Mint Condition is a another story
      That’s what fascinates me about them
      I finally found Web Of Spiderman 97,98,99,100 in a Set in Aus Ebay for $45
      They where not close to near mint at all but still pulled the trigger
      What Australian Price Variants do you have ??

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  6. Hi Paul, Hulk 377 is one I’ve been trying to find too (ever since learning about AUS variants), without even a hint of success (I haven’t even sighted one, let alone a high grade copy).

    My latest AUS variant acquisition was Spectacular Spider-Man #189 — I feel such nostalgia looking at that awesome hologram cover 🙂 — and this particular copy was a stunner compared to any others I’d seen. It is now back from CGC (first one on census for the issue) and achieved a 9.0! Yes!


    By the way, we should all mentally subtract one 9.6 copy for ASM 361 versus whatever the census shows — because I learned something today, on account of an eBay alert being triggered. The alert brought me to this new listing (titled “AMAZING SPIDERMAN #361 9.6 CGC ULTRA RARE AUSTRALIAN EDITION 1ST CARNAGE”): https://www.ebay.com/itm/173265969239

    Only problem is that the copy inside that “Australian Edition” labeled slab is a plain old direct edition… What a blunder, wow! The new(ish) CGC online submission entry system auto-suggests with a drop-down when you begin to enter a book, and I wonder if the original submitter of that copy simply selected the Australian Edition census date by accident, and then it slipped through CGC’s QA department unnoticed? I’ve seen mis-labeled Canadian Edition comics before (i.e. the label read Canadian Edition when the book inside was not), but this marks the first mis-labeled Australian Edition book I’ve seen; here’s the main listing picture just to capture it here for posterity:

    Yikes!

    – Ben

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      Awesome info Ben thanks
      I have been going through my old comics and the Earliest Hulk Australian Variant I have found is Hulk 379
      I have never seen a Hulk 377 in 25 years but who knows it might exist
      The Amazing Spiderman Hologram Cover is also a Beast in these Aus Variants and has a very high price of $5.95 so I’m not sure many were printed
      In a nut shell I have found with these Australian Variants is that they absolutely the opposite of the U.S Editions From the 90s as far as print run go
      X-men 1 and X-force 1 has HUGE printings but the Australian are almost the rarest out of them all
      There was 4 different Editions Of x-men 1 Released and they are very very hard to track down and in Near Mint nearly impossible
      Let the Hunt continue

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  7. A reader came across this find, a Fantastic Four #1 AUS variant (November 1996):

    Published 11/1996, with cover price of $3.95 AUS! Also interesting about this issue is that direct editions carry a cover price of $2.95 US ($4.15 CAN) whereas the batch of newsstand copies cover priced for US and CAN carry a cover price of $2.99 US ($4.05 CAN). Take a look:

    So the regular newsstand copies are a cover price variant of the issue number too! 🙂 Here’s a zoom-in of the three price boxes side by side:

    – Ben

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    • Awesome, Jace! Is the below your copy? It is probably not a coincidence that someone emailed the below to me today 😉 — I’m so pleased to see that this variant exists! Wow would I love to own one of these! Congrats on having one in your collection, Jace! 🙂

      – Ben

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  8. Hi everyone, big news regarding our AUS price variants: CBCS is overhauling their labeling of Type 1A price variants across the board… you can see an example new 75¢ Canadian Price Variant label here (replacing the old labeling of “Canadian Edition”)… but the labeling improvement will extend beyond Canadian price variants; Tim Bildhauser of CBCS said, quote, “We will be carrying this change in notation over to both the Australian newsstand comics from the early 1990s as well as the various U.K. price variants as well.”

    So going forward one of the big two grading companies will be recognizing our AUS price variants with price variant labeling!

    – Ben 🙂

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      This Information is Ground Breaking In Regards to these Australian Variants well Done
      I have Hundreds Of these Variants like I’ve said before
      Anyway a couple of titles left off List are Alf no idea how many issues but I’ve seen the later issues
      Clive Barkers Ecokid
      Clive Barkers Hokum and Hex
      I have Ghost Rider 23 Aus and I’m sure there’s a lot more before that.
      Please contact me if you have any questions
      Paul Nicholls

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    • Woo hoo!! I’m so excited you’re taking this on! 🙂 Here are some pictures below to confirm some needed issues.

      – Ben p.s. Happy New Year! 🙂

      X-Factor #65

      X-Force #8

      X-Force #15

      X-Force #19

      X-Force #7, 12, 13, 14, 20, 21, 22, 23, 26

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  9. Get Marwood & I says:

    Hi Paul, thanks for the encouragement. I found your Google site the other day and you’re clearly a man who loves his comics – and variants! Good to find another AUS fan.

    I’ve found another 10 AUS copies since the post so we’re over the 700 mark now. Would you mind posting pictures of the Alf / Clive Barkers if you have them? To preserve the integrity of the data I only list a book as confirmed when I have pictorial evidence, otherwise you lose track (and can’t prove the existence if / when challenged). I’m not sure how to contact you directly – is there a way?

    Thanks again for the kind words 🙂

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      Contact me by email. I have found some very high grade Copies Of Australian Price Variants such as Venom 1 and ASM 361-362-363 that have a Shot at 9.8 at CGC
      I have multiple copies too Of these

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  10. Get Marwood & I says:

    Ha! I’ve found a raft of Clive Barker’s on eBay just now. The mistake I was making was putting ‘Barkers’ as the search. They only come up with ‘Barker’ for some reason. All good fun. I couldn’t find any Alf’s though….

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  11. Get Marwood & I says:

    Excellent Mr Bond! We’re up to 734 confirmed copies now. I’ll post a revised title & number list on the CGC boards soon and link it here. If everyone keeps adding to it we’ll be well on our way to jointly create a definitive AUS issue list 🙂

    Happy New Year!

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  12. Get Marwood & I says:

    Nice. We were only just talking about them in my CGC thread. Shame about the sellers price. I see that the Cover E (according to the GCD) in the lot is the US copy (price on the back). I wonder if that exists as an AUS too? If so, you’d have thought it would be an AUS copy, sitting next to the other four.

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  13. varyant555 (formerly Mr. Cover Price Variant) forwarded me this and asked that I post the picture — it appears that CGC made at least one and possibly two changes to their labeling of AUS price variants: (1) They are now listing the variant cover price on the right-hand of the label just like they began doing with Canadian price variants last year, and (2) It appears they may have decided to re-think which month they categorize the variants under in their system and now go by the indicia month — I say “may” because I looked up a couple of other issues on census and still see the old entries categorized by the cover month, but it is possible they may be moving things around on a “piecemeal” basis as new submissions come in? But on this X-Men #1 below, you can see they used 10/91 (indicia month) versus using the cover month and then placing a note about the indicia month as they had been doing before…

    p.s. Seeing the above makes me wonder — they now place the variant cover price on the right-hand side of the labels for AUS price variants and Canadian price variants, which is two of the three known instances of Type 1A variants that Marvel published… so has CGC also now started to note the variant cover price on the right-hand side of the label for pence price variants as well?

    – Ben

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  14. Get Marwood & I says:

    Whilst I don’t know if they are, I wouldn’t see a need for CGC to put the pence price on the CGC label as it is clearly in a different currency. The CAD and AUS copies could be mistaken for US prices given that they are all in dollars. A pence symbol / price can’t be.

    The country designation is enough in my view (“UK Edition”, “Australian Edition”, “Canadian Edition”) although I would personally like to see “first printing” added to that to remove any doubt that the book was so produced.

    Only if there were price variants within price variants, for example, two AUS copies of the same comic with different AUS prices, would it make sense to add that detail to the label. In all other cases where there is only one price, the AUS/Canadian/UK Edition designation is sufficient to identify the variance, and you can then see the price on the comic itself.

    Good spot on CGCs approach though.

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  15. Hi everyone, I just received a $1.80 AUS Iron Man #282 variant back from CGC and wanted to follow-up on the observation on the X-Men #1 variant from a couple of months back, where it appeared that CGC changed their treatment of our AUS variants in two ways: listing the variant cover price on the right-hand of the label, and, re-thinking which month they categorize the variants under in their system to now go by the indicia month.

    I thought my Iron Man #282 variant was going to be the first one to hit the census for this issue, but it looks like someone else beat me to the punch — there’s already one copy there in a lookup today, and, just like with the X-Men #1 example, CGC catalogued the book by its indicia month (under 7/92 instead of 10/92 cover month):

    The census hasn’t updated online yet to show my copy in the above results, but I can report that it too was given this treatment: it is labeled a 7/92 issue — going by the indicia month — and then on the right-hand side of the label they make a note about the $1.80 cover price:

    This is great: people looking up Iron Man #282 on census will see this variant right there in the “main” record which should be a longer-term incremental positive for AUS variant awareness among collectors.

    I like this treatment way better than the prior method of cataloging the issue by the cover month and then mentioning the indicia date on the right-hand side of the label, but, I notice that CGC has not (yet) “ported over” prior AUS variants to this new treatment. For example, New Mutants #98 still has two census entries — 2/91 and 5/91 — and all the AUS variants are over in the 5/91 entry (which then has the label note “Indicia reads 2/91” on the right-hand side). Similar with ASM #361.

    So this leaves me wondering: does CGC plan on “fixing” the old census entries for AUS variants on a “piecemeal” basis (i.e. next time a New Mutants #98 variant comes through their doors they’ll change the census), or what? Will it take a collector actively asking them for us to see a change to the census for other issues with AUS variants previously catalogued?

    Next time someone submits one of the variants with an older census entry, I hope you’ll take a moment to contact CGC and request they apply the “new treatment” as given to X-Men #1 and Iron Man #282, and port over the old entry to use the indicia month as the issue date!

    – Ben 🙂

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    • Paul Nicholls says:

      Awesome Ben Beautiful Comic wow
      This CGC Labelling is Confusing.I got some comics back like 4 weeks ago from CGC and ASM 361 9.8 Venom Lethal Protector 1 9.8 and New Mutants 100 9.6 all are the Highest on Census
      Anyway NM 100 on Label has 2.00 on Label but ASM and Venom doesn’t just the indica month and they were submitted at same time
      I have some massive massive news too that I know you will appreciate
      Drum Roll
      On Sunday I Bought the First ever Double Cover Of These Australian Price Variants that I have ever seen.
      I never Dreamt they existed
      I Bought a Amazing Spiderman 345 Double Cover for $200 Australian on EBay
      It’s definitely going to CGC this Year
      On a Different Note I would really Like your Feedback and Knowledge on Comics on CBSI Market Trends on Our MeWe site
      Your Knowledge would be invaluable
      Again that iron man in Sick
      Well Done Brother

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  16. Hi Paul, awesome news on your double cover find (also your ASM #361 and Venom #1 in 9.8 [WOW!], and New Mutants #100 in 9.6!).

    That’s interesting to hear that those were submitted to CGC at the same time and yet CGC applied their old AUS variant census treatment to the ASM and Venom, but their new census treatment to the New Mutants 100. Here’s a screenshot of the New Mutants #100 census entry for others to see — cataloged under 4/1991 together with the regular copies:

    That they treated your books differently within the same submission suggests to me that CGC might not have a plan to automatically “port over” their old entries for the AUS variants they had cataloged prior to this new treatment… Hopefully they would still do so upon request if a customer asks them either on a new submission or a reholder? It would definitely be nice to have some consistency so I hope at some point those older entries get updated to the new treatment!

    – Ben p.s. I haven’t signed up to access MeWe but I heard that a lot of Google+ sites were moving there. I find it very interesting that Google+ was deemed a failure and that they elected to shut it down.

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  17. Paul Nicholls says:

    Hey Ben I’m really for Part 3 of this Australian Price Variant Blog you have Started
    I have Heaps of new information on random things but I think Grading Labeling is the Biggest
    Contact me on [email]
    I would love to help in part 3
    The info on CGC Boards is very helpful too
    Cheers Mate

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